tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4290163255778893789.post9217555955022649902..comments2024-03-16T05:19:07.061-04:00Comments on Retirement Blues: Sunday Music BloggingJazzbumpahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07337490817307473659noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4290163255778893789.post-27429334142257499252009-06-21T12:19:41.251-04:002009-06-21T12:19:41.251-04:00I'm not a traditionalist. My taste for jazz s...I'm not a traditionalist. My taste for jazz started in 80s, grew out of jazzy rock, ala Steely Dan, Zappa, a few others. Once you play Miles Davis Kind of Blue a few dozen times, the rock partay not so appealing. <br /><br />I still prefer the 40s 50s sound, some be-bop. Ellington, Kenton, Gerry Mulligan (I think he played with Kenton a bit), Chet baker, then combo stuff with Bill Evans, 'Trane, Miles. etc. Some fusion works for me--some I don't really enjoy. That said, most jazz harmonies have been known since like Debussy and Ravel, if not Chopin (ah yeahh, my man Freddy "Phat" Chopin ticklin' the ivories)Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4290163255778893789.post-46829420794446292042009-06-21T11:52:58.795-04:002009-06-21T11:52:58.795-04:00Forgot to mention - I think Rainy Day is a Dee Bar...Forgot to mention - I think Rainy Day is a Dee Barton arrangement.Jazzbumpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07337490817307473659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4290163255778893789.post-67121729151000573432009-06-21T11:51:03.734-04:002009-06-21T11:51:03.734-04:00Perhaps you will find this more to your liking. I...Perhaps you will find<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j44RePau7Qg" rel="nofollow"> this </a>more to your liking. I can't find Stan doing <b>RAINY DAY</b> on You Tube. But the Hungarians do a more than credible job. I rate it an A-Jazzbumpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07337490817307473659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4290163255778893789.post-76348384062835053502009-06-21T11:38:39.169-04:002009-06-21T11:38:39.169-04:00Stan gives Hank Levy full credit at the beginning ...Stan gives Hank Levy full credit at the beginning of the vid, and also on whichever album had this track.<br /><br />I'm delighted to say that when we played this , we also nailed the rhythms and meter changes. I can't speak for trad jazzers in '72. That was the early fatherhood period of my life, and the trombone was set a side for a couple of decades. <br /><br />But jazz is not about tradition -it's about expansion. And Stan was always pushing at the margins.<br /><br />I don't have any of the Kenton arrangements. Rugolo did a lot in the 50's - as well as both "Four Freshmen and Five Trombones" sets. Other stalwarts were Dee Barton, and Bill Russo. Next week I might put up a Willie Maiden chart.<br /><br />All the upright bass players I know are up in years. It's a lot easier to find an electric bass player these days.<br /><br />Cheers!Jazzbumpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07337490817307473659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4290163255778893789.post-40582505953780502202009-06-21T11:37:43.355-04:002009-06-21T11:37:43.355-04:00Tho' I must say
the older noir-harmonies and ...Tho' I must say<br /><br />the older noir-harmonies and chromaticism of Kenton band more to my taste than the chiapas latin-rock--like Artistry in Rhythm--. And Kenton no slouch on the ivories---a hint of Scriabin, and dark, man. <br /><br />Stan did the soundtrack for 50s-60s LA mob wars...picture the starlets enjoying their nightcap on sunset, crime, booze, cars, simmering complex entropy in all directions (James Ellroy sort of picks up on it) . All that TV crime show/noir big band stuff--Stan really started it--tho Duke Ellington might have helped-- and the hacks ripped him offJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4290163255778893789.post-60227407671933063022009-06-21T11:21:15.377-04:002009-06-21T11:21:15.377-04:00At least strange acquaintance J. appreciates Stan ...At least strange acquaintance J. appreciates Stan Kenton musick--(actually written by Levy). Fender bass works for me (then Im a e-bassist)--really, in modern jazz preferable I think, unless you have a Ron Carter or Haden around. <br /><br />The double time section with soprano cool--hint of 'trane. The tricky meters interesting--sort of Zappa-ish--, and....... tricky, tho' the band nails it, for most part--percussion works for me too, tho' I don't think all the trad. jazzers approved..... <br /><br />.....I dig the simmer brass tech.--stan the king of dynamics (it's rugalo I think doing the charts usually---you have the chart??) ....as long as the Maynard Ferguson-factor doesn't get too out of hand.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4290163255778893789.post-56519190351000419562009-06-21T11:19:08.599-04:002009-06-21T11:19:08.599-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283noreply@blogger.com